Oy vey I didnt catch this before, but seeing it now it sort of made my eyes water a bit. These other comments are just people seeing what they want to see, to make things more mysterious. Much, much more revealing. Yes, I think its the entrance to a short cave. In 2014 Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, both from the Netherlands were traveling and exploring the Central American country of Panama. P.S. I dont really speculate much with psychic readings or energy. I dont know if this photo is before or after a photo where Kris appears to have mud on her legs and on her arm. I dont think so. Or if someone deleted them? I havent seen any discussions on this. Does anyone know what the orange string is on the left of the photo? However, with the high resolution photo, you can more clearly see an organized structure over her head. Things Tourists Should Never Do in Panama, Ever - Culture Trip . As for the wrong password entry. Shock and fear and protecting their family from pain was the goal. Not getting any fingerprints looks suspect. More info here. There was no signal!! It seems to be made up of white paint, at least like a tribal looking face of white paint. I read that the dog returned to town in the evening, alone, but I havent seen it in any pictures. Before that, in image 507 & 508, you can see Kris in a stiff, nervous posture, because the girls saw someone they were afraid of closing in. & very very eerie all in all- I think youre absolutely right on its significance. Think. 3. Highlighted areas of interest (some not yet discussed I think): I think the night pictures were made by the killers to make it look like they were lost and trying to signal for help. Theres no evidence that animals scavenged the Holandesas., Panamanian IMELCF Forensic Anthropologist, This is from the Daily Beast interview with Jeremy Kryt titled: The Lost Girls, the Bones, and the Man in the Panama Morgue. Why no video diary? However, the tone of the pictures began to change. After a second look, I found that the Yahoo article specifically states that it was 17 foreigners belonging to another sect, but Yahoo was somewhat unclear Foreign can have a lot of meanings in this context. We do not know what other clothing or items they possibly took. Chilling photos reveal final moments of missing hikers in Panama jungle Therefore, this can prove that the likelihood of a third party being involved is very high. I think in the original photo she is putting on her backpack, stretching her arm and back, and the backpack has been airbrushed out because of course she didnt take that with her. https://photos.app.goo.gl/nVA1PDjjeVwULeo66. And the police are not helping at all it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation. If you have any supplementary information regarding the case, or if you were involved in this case and feel that the information available in this article impacts your privacy, please contact our team. Adventurers and travelers seek different experiences. Also the path looks to be a dried up river vs a man made path. The sign actually looks like a door with light shining thru.thats crazy. Were the photos altered in any way or is this a presumption? However, calling emergency services doesnt require unlocking the phone, meaning a third party had to be involved. U.S. Travel Ban: This Is How It's Costing Europe Billions Yessss!! I see the nose and mouth and possibly and eye, like they were trying to hide from the girls or camera and peaking behind branches creepy. And remember that the legitimate photos we have came from Juan. And I agree that her hands are free. You highlight the importance of fastidiousness in the articles that I reference. . The Velleman family had been in touch with several Wisconsin and Illinois representatives as they sought assistance from the U.S. government in the search and recovery effort. Right now Im simply building a list of names to determine interest: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/14/organizing-a-research-team/. Nobody is safe. "This is a nightmare with 1,001 demons," says 40-year-old Oscar, who is from Colombia but was living in Bolivia. In Central America, dogs arent usually seen as something to protect and cuddle. Do they deal in weapons, drugs, porn? For what reason? But then Im immediately confronted with conflicting evidence to suggest otherwise. Im not understanding why they bothered to create a cover story. Is there a particular name, symbol or color associated with the gang? Kris walks down the ravine and bends over to examine orange graffiti Hi Jim, I appreciate your comments but please lay off the language of calling people fools. According the guidance given to the US Embassy, immigration officials will require tourists who leave the country to stay a minimum of 30 days outside of the country before reentering. The dog wasnt in any photos, nor were the girls photographed after their disappearance. The students' phone records also tragically revealed how they desperately tried to call the police. Also, no organ stealing, no cartels, no people traffickers, nothing to do with tribes, cults, sects, etc. There is what appears to be a well trodden, narrow path to the left of her which passes behind her and enters a very dark area at the back right, which could be the cave. Is it a reasonable number? Here is what bothers me about this event. Over the years, dozens of tourists like Agarwal, many of them foreign nationals, have gone missing while visiting the Parvati Valley in the state of Himachal Pradesh. On closer inspection this and the cave photo appear heavily manipulated. This is significant because image 508 was the last photograph of them where they werent in any trouble. Its perfectly normal and had they not tragically passed, its the type of photo theyd have been joking about later. I think the most important photos were not the daytime ones; I think the most important photos were some of the legible nighttime ones. In all, the State Department says that in 2013 and 2014, a . Being disoriented, and losing a companion, hunger, asthma. I think the camera dried and started working again and they took pictures at night. Shame! I cant explain it but again it resembles so many of the bizarre cases which author and former cop David Paulides has brought (thousands of these similar events) right here in the US and Canada. The main/central support bar (branch?) As a side note, if all of the photos are in the order in which they were taken, why do they put their hair up, and take it down so much? The lower orange being around the belly area. Police searches have found nothing and now his mother is flying out to try to find him. If so, it would indicate that she had been kept alive for a few weeks or more. No accident. I know that its tempting to a lot of people to make simple conclusions, but its simply not possible to make conclusions without more information. While some believe Kris and Lisanne died in an accident, the ex-cop slammed the police investigation in Panama as shoddy and said it should be redone. Its all speculation until more answers are found. There appears to be a visible roof-like structure above Kriss head. And if suspects were clicking photos, and knew how to operate a smartphone, they would not return the phones. Why were they still in the jungle at 4:39 PM when they made their first distress call? If one or both of the phones were missing, it would have generated more questions. At dawn the rain stops and she sets out. After finding the women's phones, authorities now had alead. Perhaps Kris fell first and Lisanne heard her scream and running in fell herself. However having just seen a darkened and reddened photo (the one of the back of Kriss strawberry blonde hair) you can see, in the top left, a door frame at the bottom of which is a dark floor. Its part of the relaxed culture. Also mobile signals are better at night yet no calls were attempted. Depending on how many mobile towers there are the police should have information. Their backpack contents and electronics were stolen to be sold later but handed back to stop the search and not be incriminated. Where they went and who they talked to in order to build up an idea about what motivated them to take that fateful walk and what information could have taken them down the other side of the divide. Why are both her hands behind her back? How Many Kids Does Linkin Park Have? And we also have more than 500 sets of human remains believed to be archived across the . 2. Give me a link. Their families believed the women were still in the unrecovered plane wreckage, and as the search stretched on for days and then weeks, they pleaded with the U.S. government for help they said never came. The internet does not have the most crucial information about the case. Therefore, if Kris Kremers is normal and happy, as she appears to be in this photo (and in the other photos in the series), it means that things took a bad turn for them relatively soon after the photo above was taken. . Thanks for your interest in the case and providing some input. I hope you understand my english, im not a native speaker. So many questions and there is no clear starting place like a police report to read. I was looking at the photographs again and something caught my eye. I think the last three photos of Kris show a definite change in mood. The sun is shining right into her eyes so shes squinting and bending down a bit to see her friend, who was probably talking to her while snapping the photo. The remains of both women were found soon after that. The girls went for a swim in a rock pool. This option is least likely, because wed obviously see something more tangible in the photos. Snoeren and West believe that flash floods, which are typical to that area, would make strategically placing items impossible. Apparently this villager travelled abroad, adopted extremist Christian views, returned home and started a cult in his own village which resulted in human sacrifices of other locals. This photo of Kris Kremers is identified as Photo 505. Hi Abrahm, thank you for your comment. The goal wouldnt be to identify suspects or disrupt anyones life. Theyre also exceptionally rugged and dangerous, especially during the April-to-October wet season. Its a subtle difference, but you can tell the girls smiles are forced in those two photos and are not like the natural happy smiles in the other summit photos. The link to the main page where I give complete details of the story: The True Story of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon 2 Girls That Disappeared in Panama. I think investigation isnt the correct word. I think Juantarctica made a compelling case on YouTube for this theory. Two years later, a 23 year old American woman is strangled to death while walking the trails. This is why the ping data can help because it can show if they were in one place or moving. That does not make sense if they were genuine. Loads of speculations as to why they didnt leave messages to their families. Does anyone agree with me? 3. Exhausted and waited somewhere near water for days. I really hope the girls rest in peace and that nobody goes through this ever. And I cannot fathom standing this way, hands behind the back and turned like that unless my hands were restricted behind my back. I just realized Blue, the guide dog who often walks hikers up the trail, whose return home without the girls alerted locals they were missing, IS NOT IN ANY OF L & K pictures. This is a fake and the pixellation errors can be seen up close (the gap in the crook of her right arm is IN FRONT OF her). https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kris+and+lisanne++finanli. Their families went to the police to. Only a fool thinks they were attacked by people. From my understanding, there was no warning signs on the trail. With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season., Winning Photos from the 2018 Nikon Small World Competition, Incredible Time-lapse Shot from the International Space Station at Night, Intense Macro Photos of Ants Battling to the Death, Surprising Underwater Photo Revives Investigation of Missing Teen, Hacker Hoodie Blinds Surveillance Cameras with Infrared Light, Couple Finds Trove of 2,000 Cameras and Lenses in Storage Unit, Hyper-Realistic AI Face Filter Shocks TikTok Users, AI Tool Reveals How Celebrities Faces Have Been Photoshopped, The Exposure Donut for Sony Cameras Simplifies Manual Exposure. How long have Keir Starmer and Sue Gray been secretly cooking up their plot? Also, the parents did not release all the images. Phone records. CARACAS, Venezuela -- Few Venezuela ns have not had their lives touched by migration over the last decade, when more than 7 million people left the country amid a political . I am not an investigator but I find it very strange that there were no witnesses found either tourists or locals on the trail. Some suggest that they could they have seen something that they didnt want the rest of the world to see. Im sorry but the question deserves a dumb answer. After the alarm was raised on April 2, a search party was sent to look for them but nothing was found until ten weeks later when a local woman who found Froons blue backpack turned it in to authorities. Latin America has tens of thousands of small communities, all of which operate slightly differently to some degree. Please support us we cant do it without you. Snoeren had called West and told her: "With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season. Those two women were wearing very little clothing to be entering bush/jungle, there is no way that theyd easily make their way through vegetation, and, as they were clearly intelligent, why would they voluntarily just walk into dense bush? Possibly that info can help. His . Even if that had happened, the skeleton would have been more intact and scratch marks would have been found on the bones. I hope one day they will find more answers. Regarding the photos, I have no idea why they would be taking these, deleted some later and left this one, especially since the ribbed roofing structure is somewhat obvious. What people are mistaking as blood from her nose and lip is again just a shadow cast from her nostril and lower lip due to the bright sun. I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash. https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lMUOsoUME0Q/YLJzTuPRWbI/AAAAAAAAHDc/431BbuGq2PQEgxV65djGrwcBUCL5BEh8QCLcBGAsYHQ/s486/closeupkrs.jpg. There is definitely a face on that the post/tree to the right of Kris. Machismo culture is very real and respect is considered to hold a higher level of importance in Latin America. Even the bones, the few that remain. 2. If you find any additional information, please let me know. Are you familiar with the Koude Kaas blogs about this case? They protested in China - now they've gone missing. The reason being, many people assume that shes leaning over and looking down at the rock before her. Dog owners here are not mindful of where their dog goes the owners are tending to their own life: working, raising children, running a business, or resting during the hot days. Maybe one girl regained consciousness at night and took the pictures. But by April 6, the girls were still missing. I believe that this case WILL be solved. There are no public statistics. I also see the handing ornament, whatever that is called and definitely a roof structure with leaves and branches above her. Was the dog fed and watered by a family as opposed to being one of the many feral dogs in Latin America? This is the reason that police, journalists and military personnel often disappear and governments struggle to combat crime, not to mention corruption within law enforcement itself. Thank you, Sue. The oddest thing about this photo is the look on her face which looks very distorted. OmgIm staring at this pic. Hi Birgitte, thank you for your comment. For goodness sake, why do people make things up? again, this has been superimposed on the scene and again her feet are obscured because she is not wearing boots. Cheers. I know that their camera and mobile phone photos have been analyzed a thousand times by various people online but I also know that many people arent able to enhance the brightness, contrast, exposure and saturation in a professional graphics program. Draw a line from that point in all directions as far as they could travel in the time to the emergency call, and there must be part of the answer to the mystery inside that circle. Foul play is very likely. The structure at the back of this small ravine looks like a hideout that a military man might make, as part of survival training in the jungle. Just a few weeks later hes found dead. But absolutely everything points to it being a case of underestimating the jungle and dying from exposure. This eliminates all questions about why didnt the girls call X, Y, Z. Hi Ray, thank you for your comment. If a cave was found that would be big news and there could be DNA evidence inside it. Despite search teams, which included dogs and. Most travelers that have big experiences want to remember the small details of trips, because the trip represents an important memory in their life. To begin with his suggests either they walked into dense dark forest so there was no foto ops or it stopped being fun and started to become serious so somewhere not far beyond that stream did they met a fateful fork in the path which took them towards oblivion. Hi Tom, I believe you intended to comment above, on @SwordOfGods comment. Once they examined the phones, investigators unraveled a confusing and grim timeline. This figure has increased rapidly since the millionth tourist . I would like to know the answer to that question also. Hi Anna, youre casting a wide net when you say If anything, they work harder to try and bring anyone to justice that harms a tourist.. This makes no sense. It seems likely it was tribal. The guide had something to do with the girls disappearance. The alarm was initially raised about the disappearance of the girls after they missed a private walking tour of Boquete on April 2. Perplexing to say the least. On the other hand, its more dangerous and risky. Cats are often seen as pests and scavengers which is unfortunately why many people use poison to kill local cats. No chance. Tuesday morning, Velleman and Borries were recovered from inside the plane, according to Albert Lewitinn, a representative for the Velleman family. September 1, 2022. After the backpack was found the family got to see the pictures and the case was ruled an accident presumably the 30 or so pics the family didnt release showed the girls in bad shape,, the case went from foul play to accident after the pics were seen.. the pic of the girls hair was put on internet by her brother or something like that and was quickly photoshopped , the wound and eye were concealed. A table of photo data from their hike on El Pianista Trail: New Case Data: Timestamps Of Missing Daytime Photos. In 2020 the number of international visitors to Australia dropped to 6.7 million due . I noticed that youve submitted two more links in another newer comment. Theycalled 112, the emergency number for the Netherlands, as well as Panama's emergency number, 911. Minha Querida menina. Thanks Chris!! Trials are too costly. It was probably done by the perpetrators in order to collect the reward money. Also subsequently one or the other phone connected without them obviously knowing. This whole incident is the stuff of horror movies and very chilling, even if it was an accident. And if other people learn too much, they get killed too. Im curious. Rest fell off of the one hour bridge in Bastrop brains and on the rocks below some photos show her dead body laying down there. I cant say what it is, but it looks similar to an object, that can be seen in some of the nighttime photos, like in this one here. The dog found his way home. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. Yes theres a man to her left crouched down wearing beige/ beige/ brown. Did they lose it right at the start of the hike, but didnt bother to go and look for it? Its too cold to sleep at night, so they try to keep moving, until, in the darkness Kris falls down a ravine, hitting her head, and going into a coma. Could the structure built above be some sort of a net or trapping device? Sadly however, the Beaumont children are just three of around 2,000 long-term missing people in Australia. Its incredibly sad. For the first handful, a correct password was entered. Oliver, I just looked at your 1st link, and I can clearly see a human face in the red circle. I suppose incompetence runs at many levels. Panamas government is stuck in a desperate position. Remains of 2 American women missing after Panama plane crash recovered Kids in the area could have found the backpack and were just messing around with the camera. & is that some sort of an entrance to a cave or another makeshift structure shes crouching to take a look inside- or is a part of the trail in that spot purposefully made lower & narrower in order to pass through? The timeline could have been enhanced with this info. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, Actually heres uncompressed upscaled original image (upscaled and color corrected with AI). Her skin does not look pallid like that of a dead person, it is still pink. If thats what Im seeing, I have no doubt that it was murder and that this photo and several others have been manipulated. Also, I live in El Salvador, less than 1,000 kilometers from Panama, which has many cultural similarities. as soon as u see 1 photoshopped pic u know something is wrong,, the bag turned up to keep the police from searching the jungle. While I do believe eventually, and possibly soon after this, there was foul play, I dont think anything untoward was happening as of this photo. After investigating further, I discovered this article from the LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-18/cult-anointed-by-god-kills-7-in-panama-jungle, The LA Times article states The sect arose after a villager returned to the community several months ago following a stint abroad, bringing back unusual religious beliefs with him.. On the bottom right of the photo it looks as though her hair is wrapped around somebodys fingers, or rather someone has their fingers wrapped around her hair. Someone in the comments put the link to your website thats how I found you! People began to suspect something happened whenthe dog Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. Ive kept comments on this article open for civil and respectful discussion. I think its very possible that someone was with them or joined them along the way at some point. What Really Happened To Two Dutch Hikers Who Disappeared In Panama? I have one questions for you, regarding the 90 photos taken at night: if these were not taken by one of the girls in an attempt to provide light or whatever, what possible purpose could anyone else, such as an attacker, have in taking these photos? Thanks in advance! Haha. It would be interesting to see a map of possible mobile blackspots because it seems where ever they were IF STATIONARY then they were on the extreme edge or reception dependent on atmospherics. , I could be wrong but scanning through the comments didnt see some of these things being discussed, & thought Id put my 2 sense in! Bizarre Stories About Tourists Who Went Missing Far From Home - CBC Hi Justin, Well done the image is really sharp now. That photo was wiped clean from the SD card, which is a strong clue that someone deleted it after the other photos were taken. When neither Froonnor Kremers turned up, the community decided to wait until the next day to contact authorities. At first glance I just thought she was looking for something. I think she is pointing, but at something else in another location. https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lMUOsoUME0Q/YLJzTuPRWbI/AAAAAAAAHDc/431BbuGq2PQEgxV65djGrwcBUCL5BEh8QCLcBGAsYHQ/s486/closeupkrs.jpg. However, visitors are still a crucial part of the local economy and the reason the. I agree that her hands look like they are over head. The simplest explanations are most likely to be the correct explanations. The bag contained her camera as well as two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, Froons passport, a water bottle, two bras, and both womens phones. The illusion of her being tied and in distress is nothing more than that. A tragedy and a mystery but in its core, this is only a horrible accident. Yes indeed!I hadnt noticed that before!is it a carved rock of sorts?. And the black mark on her face. For more background and insight, please feel free to read some of the disappearance stories Ive written about: https://imperfectplan.com/disappearances/. The removed comment provided nothing helpful in any respect, and was merely to get attention and reactions. The deaths of more than 4,680 people have been documented during migration in Asia since 2014, often linked to the exodus of the Rohingya from Myanmar. Jumping to conclusions too early, or on the basis of too little and incorrect information is likely to lead to the wrong conclusions. I do believe that this appears to be some sort of structure though, it does seem like some vines / branches have been woven together to form some sort of hut and even the AI enhancement would not make the blue appear on the floor so distinctly, the color and look almost reminds me of a scrap of denim like material? This is speculation. Perhaps someone has just hit Kris on the right side of her head and she is putting her hand up to where it hurts. The blue object looks like it could be a crushed beer can. Its up to the public now the government closed the case 6 years ago. Who would do this, and why? I think its possible the red and black object is actually just a reddish-brown dead plant leaf jungle leaves can get rather large. The last half either had a wrong password, or simply no password at all was entered. It took us quite some time to get there, the authors explain to The Daily Beast. The rich pay for their own security and the poor resort to vigilantism. Do we know who owned the dog named Blue (aka Azul). They decided to take that short hike, but they failed to tell anyone where they were going and what time to expect them back. I think they were lost. All very different from the happy silly girlie pictures at the beginning. Even at this point, I still think theres a lot that can be achieved from gathering information and further evaluating the existing evidence. One of them probably fell got hurt, a local found them said they would help and well they didnt help they killed them and dumped in River knowing the river would remove any evidence. And it seems to be leading to a dead-end. In 2014 Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, both from the Netherlands were traveling and exploring the Central American country of Panama. There's no telling how many ships or planes have "disappeared" in the Bermuda Triangle, but the U.S. Navy estimates that around 50 ships and 20 aircraft have gone missing there. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your interest in the case. This tribe was not located near the area where Kris and Lisanne disappeared, and therefore, in no way can be connected to the disappearance of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon. Keep the ideas flowing guys. I dont think theres anything untoward I think shes saying look at this tunnel. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. I dont believe that anything ominous is happening to Kris in this specific photo. What kind of twisted f*ck stick makes this kind of comment? I think Juan is actively trying to protect this human trafficking agency. All facts are not available in this case. EERIE photos discovered on a camera belonging to two missing hikers revealed their mysterious final moments before both girls vanished in the jungle in Panama. To Jane I just gave the brief overall story of what I think happened. Why not just kill them and leave it be? Theres some type of red and black object at the top of the photo. I wonder? I think this picture of Kris is a picture of her circling around looking for where they entered the jungle. Then I downloaded the photo and opened it up in my graphics editor. One day in June, the tribespeople bring him what he wants; The backpacks and the bodies. First calls at 16:39 then nothing again for 14 hours? Do mobile phones store the number entered? Im sitting here, with tears in my eyes and rolling down my cheeks.The transition from two weeks of lively holiday to stepping into the life of a real Panamanian family is just too much for me I want MOM and dad to hold me tight and tell me that everything will be alright I now feel like a small child of 2 yelling for her mother who is 2 meters away. The date read April 1, the day of their fateful hike. A wave of deadly exorcisms have griped the country, under the guise of religion, at the hand of a death cult. A priest of sorts. The Canon Powershot SX270 HS, has two methods of numbering images. Still creepy though. The rich live in gated communities.

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